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Republican Steve Knight from Palmdale is a vulnerable congressman who has the dubious distinction of serving in what has been the most ineffective and despised Congress in history, promulgating out-of-the-mainstream views on things like Social Security – which he called “a bad idea” – opposition to equal pay for women, and even refusing to allow any exceptions to his abortion stance, even if a woman had been raped or it means she’ll die.

Yes, you read that correctly. No exceptions!

Most people in the United States do not share Knight’s extremist views, and polling has shown that the majority of Santa Claritans and the broader 25th Congressional District support a woman’s right to make her own health decisions and receive equal work for equal pay.

It is 2016, after all.

Democrats in the 25th District are certainly unhappy that Knight has joined House Republicans in voting more than 50 times to repeal the Affordable Care Act, and without offering up any real alternatives.

Yep, Knight is okay with tossing the more than 20 million Americans who now have health insurance thanks to Obamacare, back into our emergency rooms.

With Republican nominee Donald J. Trump wreaking havoc in the presidential race, and Knight refusing to disavow him, it is very likely that Republican turnout could be depressed, which Democrats hope will further impact Knight’s ability to keep his seat.

National Republicans recognize just how vulnerable Knight is, which is why the national party and various “dark money” groups have run to Knight’s rescue to try to prop up his flailing and failing re-election bid.

Knight’s Democratic opponent is UCLA grad turned Yale-trained consumer rights attorney Bryan Caforio, who moved to Valencia with his wife, Lisa, an L.A. city attorney, late last year to start a family.

Caforio was raised by two public school teachers here in Southern California and has a fierce intelligence that allows him to go toe-to-toe with Knight on policy.

He’s demonstrated a mastery of the issue in the few times Knight has been willing to debate him and an ability to get under Knight’s skin with facts.

Kind of like when Clinton uses Trump’s own words against him. It is hard to run when you can’t hide.

Since the end of the primary, Caforio has built a broad coalition support for his campaign and has secured the endorsement of almost every prominent Democrat from across L.A. County and the state, including Senators Feinstein and Boxer, Gov. Jerry Brown, Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom, Attorney General Kamala Harris, as well as every other Democratic congressional representative in L.A. County.

He also has the support of every Democratic club as well as the Los Angeles County Young Democrats, nurses, school employees, not to mention organizations like Planned Parenthood Action Fund, Equality California and the Alliance for Retired Americans.

With this support come financial resources – not only local funding but, more importantly, from Democrats and pro-Democrat groups from across the country – that will allow him to match, if not dwarf, Knight on the all-important messaging front.

Expect to be inundated with traditional mailers, print, radio and television ads, as well as a dominant social media presence.

That’s right, folks, this time around there will be television ads actually running on television, not just YouTube.

This race has already been the most expensive ever waged in the 25th Congressional District, but projected spending over the final four weeks will likely make it one of the most costly House races anywhere in America this cycle.

Spending in support of Caforio will reach into the millions. As in dollars, that is.

And with a registered voter advantage that is fast pushing toward 7,000, Democrats understand that now is the time to turn what has always been a red seat into a blue seat. If Democrats vote, if they actually go to their polling sites and vote, Caforio will win. Not can win – he will win.

So get out and vote, Democrats. No excuses this time. Let’s send Bryan Caforio to Washington.

John Zaring’s columns are called too conservative by liberals and too liberal by conservatives – thus his claim to “The Rational Center.” He lives in Castaic, is a registered Democrat and has been an SCV resident since 2000.

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  • Brian Baker

    Oh, jeez, the usual misnamed “rational center” BS from its extremist Dem/socialist spokeshole author.

    I can’t recall Zaring EVER naming ONE non-Dem/socialist he supports. If he’s the “center” the actual Left must be way off the edge of the map in another dimension.

    “Bryan Caforio, who moved to Valencia with his wife, Lisa, an L.A. city attorney, late last year to start a family…”

    In plain English, that means he’s a carpetbagger from LA’s Westside who moved here in a cynical and calculated effort, spearheaded by the local Dem/socialists, to try to bring a “fresh face” to their perpetual quest to take over that seat in Congress.

    “He’s demonstrated a mastery of the issue in the few times Knight has been willing to debate him…” while managing to prove that he doesn’t know squat about our valley or local issues, instead trying to redirect the discussion into Dem/socialist talking point territory.

    “Since the end of the primary, Caforio has built a broad coalition support for his campaign and has secured the endorsement of almost every prominent Democrat from across L.A. County and the state…” and virtually no one locally of any consequence. This is a LOCAL election, Zaring. You just don’t get that, do you?

    “Spending in support of Caforio will reach into the millions. As in dollars, that is.” And I suspect a lot of buyer’s remorse come November 9th, when the hangover and reality set in.

    “Let’s send Bryan Caforio to Washington.”

    No, let’s send him back to the Westside where he belongs. Why don’t you go with him? A two-fer!

    • Actually Brian, in last week’s column I pointed out that John Kasich was a candidate worthy of endorsement; unfortunately, Republicans chose Trumpy Dumpty instead. I guess you forgot about that, huh? I mean, it has been a whole week. Jon Huntsman was another Republican who, had he advanced to win the nomination, would have received my endorsement. There have been others. Going back decades, when I actually WAS a registered Republican and a college student at Penn State, I campaigned across Pennsylvania for John Anderson, a pro-choice Republican. Again, Republicans chose someone else, some guy named Ronald Reagan, who if he ran today wouldn’t make it out of New Hampshire (yet everyone on the Right loves to hold up as their favorite Republican since Lincoln). Anyway, good luck with the landslide about to hit Trump, and I suspect take down a few Republican candidates around here with him, including Rep. Knight and Dante Acosta.

      • Brian Baker

        LOL!

        Good grief. Pointing to an “endorsement” of a guy who’s not even a candidate is absurd and irrelevant.

        As is your ancient history. Who cares about what you did in college? I sometimes wonder what possessed me to marry my first wife, but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the here and now. Same deal with your college days

        As to your droning “Reagan could never get elected now” dogma, where did you guys ever come up with that, anyway? MORE stuff you just make up out of thin air, and babble around like it’s some kind of gospel.

        Bud, I never even heard of you until you suddenly appeared a couple of month’s ago with your laughable “Rational Center” BS. That’s the here and now, and just as I wrote, you’re simply a Dem/socialist spokeshole.

        So, we’ll see how this unique and remarkable election turns out. Two despicable candidates running for Prez. Can’t get any more interesting than that. And if Trump loses, well… I get to look forward to the almost immediate impeachment of your Hildebeest.

        Won’t THAT be fun?

    • James de Bree

      John stated: “And with a registered voter advantage that is fast pushing toward 7,000, Democrats understand that now is the time to turn what has always been a red seat into a blue seat. If Democrats vote, if they actually go to their polling sites and vote, Caforio will win. Not can win – he will win.”

      Wait a minute, let’s look at this in a rational manner.

      I did some investigation this evening. According to the Secretary of State, as of September 9th (the most recent date for which statistics are available), there were approximately 374,000 registered voters in the 25th Congressional District. Approximately 142,000, or 38% are Democrats. Approximately 136,000 or 36% are Republicans. Approximately 11,000, or 3% are registered to the American Independent Party, which is farther to the right than the Republicans and whose members are not likely to vote for a Democrat. Finally, about 85,000 or 25% of the voters are decline to state, or independent voters.

      Let’s assume that voter turnout is about the same for each party. That means that about 39% of the votes will be cast by Republicans and American Independent Party members who will likely vote for Knight. About 38% of the voters will vote for Caforio.

      That leaves the outcome in the hands of the independent voters, most of whom are former Republicans. If 48% of the independents vote for Knight, he wins. Caforio needs at least 52% of the independent vote to win.

      Let’s assume that the Democrats are energized and they turn out 10% more of their voters than the Republicans do. That would give the Caforio roughly a 4% advantage, but he would still only have about 40% of the vote and would need to capture a nearly 50% of the independent vote to win.

      So like I said earlier, it appears that this election is in the hands of the independent voters irrespective of the Democratic voter turnout.

      By the way, Knight received 48% of the primary vote.

      This evening Electionsprojection.com updated its analysis and indicates that Knight has a 2.7% lead over Caforio with a 3% margin of error. There is no indication of what percentage of the voters are undecided, but I suspect that the undecided percentage must be fairly high.

      • tech

        The vote of those not registered as Democrats or Republicans is *precisely* what’s unaddressed by Democrats who cite a registered voter advantage. I concur they are who will decide the election in the 25th District, Jim.

        I’m one of those in that demographic that will vote to retain Rep. Knight.

  • lrglaw

    You left out that he is a carpetbagger from Beverley Hills who moved into our Congressional District only a year or so ago. He represents for me the worse of Democratic Machine Politics, handpicked by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Commitee (“DCCC”) and people like Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the former chair of the Democratic National Committee, who clearly favored Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders (whom I voted for as a “No Party preference Voter” AKA Independent.

    So the DCCC looks around and identifies “vulnerable Congressional Districts” held by Republicans, and they then go out and find a “Candidate” that they can throw their considerable money and assistance to. They are not acting in the best interests of the Congressional District and its residents. It is a purely partisan and power politics move that cares nothing about finding a suitable candidate who has lived in the district for years, and knows the people and the issues in that district. So they find someone like Caforio who lives pretty far away from the Congressional District both geographically and has really no connection to the Congressional District, he goes through their extensive vetting process, and once he checks off all the right boxes, “he is their man.” If elected with their power and financial resources of the DCCC he will be expected to fall in line and toe the party line, and of course he will, because he would not have been elected without all of the money and resources that flowed into his campaign from ourtside of the district.

    The DCCC will also introduce him to its extensive and well healed donors (also from outside of our congressional district), where he will mingle with and solicit campaign donations from the Democratic Fat Cat Donors who have a national agenda of regaining Democratic Control of both the House of Representatives, the US Senate, and of course Hillary Clinton as President. None of these well heeled donors care a at all who ends up in Congress from our Congressional district , as long as it is someone who had a “D” next to their name, and will be a reliable Democratic Party-line voter. That is what they will get with Brian Caforio, their hand-picked man.

    Steve Knight for whatever his faults and differences in policies with some voters in our Congressional District, has lived in this district his entire life, with exceptions for his time in the service with the Army, and his father, Pete Knight, was also a long term resident of Antelope Valley as an Air Force Test Pilot, and a local elected official for many years.

    Steve Knight represents a decades-long neighbor of ours, whom we can vote to return to Congress, a man whose kids have attended school with our children for years. Steve Knight’s prior Democratic opponent Dr. Lee Rogers, a podiatrist from Simi Valley, was also a local candidate with many years living in the Congressional District he sought to represent, and as far as I can remember, the many Democratic Challengers to the Former Republican Congressman from our district, Buck McKeon, have always been our neighbors in this Congressional District with long residency in the district.

    Lee Rogers proved his independence from the Democratic machine when he endorsed Steve Knight over his fellow Republican Tony Strictland, drawing criticism frmo the democratic party: “Two Republicans edged out Rogers in California’s new top two primary for the run off in the June 2014 election. Rogers endorsed Republican Steve Knight over Republican Tony Strickland which drew criticism from the Democratic Party,but Rogers stated, “I didn’t create the rules and I care too much about our district to let it fall to a dishonest carpetbagger who is interested only in himself, like Tony Strickland.””

    Well in 2016 we are faced with another dishonest carpetbagger who quickly moved into the district with the intention of running against Steve Knight with the blessings and the financial support of the National Democratic Party. Just say no to this Beverley Hills Carpetbagging lawyer from Beverley Hills, who has tried to portray himself as a fighter for the little guy, but who’s corporate law firm background suggests he has spent most of his professional career protecting powerful corporations and their interests.

    Read about Steve Knight’s life of service to his country on his Wikipedia page and to his community and to the people of Los Angeles in eighteen years of policing the mean streets of LA, as a Los Angeles Police Officer. He has served in a progression of Public Offices starting as a local city councilman, a state Assemblyman, a state Senator, and now a one term congressman. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Knight_(politician) Compare his life of Service to thin public service resume of his Democratic Challenger, Brian Caforio, who has never held public office before. He dishonestly claims he is a “consumer rights attorney” in his campaign literature, but the LA times shredded that claim in this article: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-bryan-caforio-legal-cases-steve-knight-20160926-snap-story.html

    The Democratic Party Machine, refused to support its local democratic congressional candidate Lt. Lou Vince, and who, like Dr Rogers who challenged Steve Knight in 2014, has since endorsed his former Republican Opponent Steve Knight over the Beverley Hills Carpetbagger Brian Caforio. (Dr. Rogers later rescinded his initial endorsement of Steve Knight)

    It is time we shine a bright light on the ugly negative campaign run by this outsider to smear a good man.

    Definition of Carpetbagger: A guy who moved into the district with his spouse in November of 2015:

    So is it true that Caforio is a recent resident of the district and no 25th District constituents have donated to his campaign?

    We researched the claim and found that Caforio moved to the district in November 2015, a month before he announced his plans, and filed papers with the Federal Election Commission to run against Knight.[2][3][4] We also reviewed the 2015 year-end financial report, the most recent disclosure that Caforio’s campaign filed with the FEC, and found that, of his 114 individual contributors, one 25th District resident had donated to the campaign in 2015. That constituent was his wife.[5] Caforio’s campaign disputed the NRCC’s claim and identified two more contributors who reside in the district. Each had given less than $200, which is the threshold for reporting the donor’s information to the FEC.[6] One of the donors identified, Gonzalo Freixes, is listed in FEC documents as the campaign treasurer.

    “Conflict Among Democrats

    Caforio, a 32-year-old trial lawyer with Susman Godfrey LLP in Los Angeles, announced his candidacy in December 2015, joining three others already seeking to challenge Knight.[3]

    Caforio’s candidacy reportedly sparked a rift between local and national Democratic Party officials. One of the candidates, Lou Vince, a Los Angeles County police lieutenant and member of the Agua Dulce, Calif., town council, had been working with local Democratic Party officials and had their support.[12][13] Vince filed his statement of candidacy with the FEC in May 2015.[14]

    But Vince was asked to consider dropping out by national party officials, including Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) who is chair of the California Democratic Congressional Delegation, after Caforio entered the race, according to The Los Angeles Times.[12][15] Vince, whom the paper said has struggled to raise funds, refused to drop out and won a pre-endorsement conference among local party activists making him a strong favorite to win the endorsement from the state party.[12]

    At least one of Vince’s local Democratic supporters charged that Caforio was an outsider because he only recently moved to the district.[12]

    “There was a lot of negativity about the new guy. He is a carpetbagger,” Jodie Cooper, executive vice president of the Simi Valley Democratic Club told The Los Angeles Times. “[Vince] really made a concerted effort to meet with people and then all of a sudden this guy comes in with money?”[12]

    Caforio’s campaign disputed some of the claims made in The Los Angeles Times article, including that Lofgren was involved in pressuring Vince to leave the race and the level of Vince’s support with local officials. The campaign said Caforio had received the endorsement of Shawn Terris, who is chair of the Ventura County Democratic Party, on January 12 and the Los Angeles County Young Democrats on February 6.[16] The campaign also touted the support of congressman from neighboring districts, such as Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) of the 30th District, and from SEIU California, which endorsed Caforio on March 1.[17]

    Conclusion

    The NRCC has charged that Democrat Bryan Caforio, who is vying to challenge Republican incumbent Steve Knight to represent California’s 25th Congressional District, is a political outsider who is “so obviously disconnected from the 25th District that not even one resident donated to his campaign.”[1]

    So is it true that Caforio is a recent resident of the district and no 25th District constituents have donated to his campaign?

    Yes, it is true. Caforio moved to the district in November, a month prior to announcing his plans and filing papers with the Federal Election Commission to run against Knight.[2][3][4] We also reviewed the 2015 year-end financial report that Caforio filed with the FEC and found that one of his 114 individual donors was a resident of the 25th District and that was his wife.[5] Caforio’s campaign, which contested the NRCC’s claim, provided two more contributors who reside in the district. Each had given less than $200, which is the threshold for reporting the donor’s information in FEC disclosures.[6] One of the donors identified, Gonzalo Freixes, is listed in FEC documents as the campaign treasurer.

    From: https://ballotpedia.org/Verbatim_fact_check:_Is_Congressional_candidate_Bryan_Caforio_a_recent_resident_of_California%27s_25th_Congressional_District%3F

    • Hey Irglaw, given the time you invested in this dissertation, you should consider writing a column (though you’d have to do some much needed editing to eliminate the repetitiveness and fact-check yourself, which might not be convenient). Oh, that and the fact that you’d have to use your real name, instead of hiding behind some made-up handle. Why not let us all know who you really are, like I do, or even Brian Baker?! But I digress, allow me to address some fallacies you posited …

      1) I actually DID mention when Bryan Caforio moved to the district; it is simply a non-issue for me since I moved here too (and I’m going to bet you probably did as well). As a UCLA and Yale-educated attorney, I’m certain that Caforio has the intelligence to quickly grasp our unique local issues, but since he isn’t running to be Mayor of Santa Clarita, understanding the policy challenges he’ll face in Congress is much more important. In this area, as with the vanquished Lou Vince, Caforio is head and shoulders better equipped than is Knight.

      2) Interesting FACT: in the primary, Lou Vince didn’t even win in Agua Dulce! Just like everywhere else across the district, Caforio bested him by a 2-to-1 margin (go ahead, look it up). Most Dems, therefore, did not find Vince to be the better candidate, and that’s why he lost. Furthermore, Lou met with the DCCC, as did Maria Gutzeit, and all of the candidates were told what they’d need to do in order to receive support of the national party. Caforio was the only one who met the requirements. Point of fact: Vince didn’t even come close, but unlike Gutzeit, he wasn’t smart enough to accept his fate. Therefore, his endorsement now of Knight, a candidate whose views are antithetical to his own, is both sour grapes and an embarrassment (for him and his supporters, not Caforio or the DCCC).

      As for Rogers, he had no Democrat to support in the race, so that’s an apples-to-oranges comparison.

      Facts matter my friend …

      • lrglaw

        Completely non-responsive to the main points of my argument, Mr. Zaring.

        1) You failed to point out in your opinion piece that Caforio and his spouse moved into Valencia ostensibly to the “start a family” in November 2015, then he announced about a month later, he was running for Congress. That looks like the real reason why his spouse and he moved into the District. He was probably pre-vetted by the DCCC to be their “guy” before he moved into the District.

        2) Anyone who moves into a Congressional District and runs for Congress with the significant resources that the DCCC poured into this local race, and completely overwhelmed Lt. Lou Vince and his operation., has a significant chance of challenging an incumbent.

        3) instead of responding to the more salient points of my post, you try to call me out and dare me to use my real name. This shows your at the short end of your intellectual rope.

        • Let me address your points:

          1) Okay, let’s assume that Caforio had political aspirations and knew that the 25th had a weak first-term Republican Representative serving in a changing district with demographic changes underway that are favorable to Dems. So what? The question is, is Santa Clarita all that different from West LA? As someone who made the exact same decision and move in 2000, I can assure you it is not. The people who live here now are pretty much mostly people who used to live there, like my family, and those few who aren’t, don’t hold views that are radically different than other Southern Californians.

          That said, the DCCC would only say to him exactly what they told Vince and Gutzheit, which is that if you can reach certain fundraising levels, they’ll consider providing financial support. Caforio was the only one who reached that threshold. Period.

          2) The DCCC spent $0 in the Primary to support Caforio. $0. #FactsMatter

          3) By asking you to identify yourself — to “own” your posts — I’m at the short end of my “intellectual rope”? Now that’s funny!

          What else you got?!

          • lrglaw

            “The question is, is Santa Clarita all that different from West LA? “Our Congressional District is the same as LA’s Westside? How long have you been smoking your Marijuana card legal medicinal weed? Antelope , Santa Clarita and Simi Valleys are worlds apart politically and in every other way I can think of. Are issues are very different than LA’s Westside, as are our demographics. We are still a largely a rural, suburban district that threatens to go up in smoke every year. around fire season. We are constantly on the brink of “carmegeddon” with our choke point at the I-5/SR-14 connector. When was the last time you saw a deer or mountain lion strolling though west LA? We have a large open pit mining Mexican Corporation which threatens to start mining every year polluting out air at the north end of Canyon Country, we are faced with the construction of the “Newhall Ranch” and the addition of 30K more families without the infrastructure to support these additional people to our valley. Two totally different demographics and challenges facing West LA and Santa Clarita. Commuters who live in AV and work in LA have unique challenges facing them and their families that West LA folks have no experience commuting an hour or longer each way to get from their homes to their jobs, on a skinny freeway (the 14) that daily ses some car accident, screw up everyone’s commute.

            The Democrats have been in power for 30 years, they have raised taxes anywhere and everywhere they can get away with it, created a state where only 30% of its residents can afford to own their own home, a business unfriendly state, sold their souls to Public Employee Unions and given them lucrative retirement plans that we cannot afford, failed to curb crime or gun crimes with their nonsense gun control laws, failed to create the freeways and mass transport infrastructure that LA County has desperately needed for years, given us Gov. Brown’s vanity project with his ridiculous high speed rail to nowhere project, and people like you still vote to send Democrats to Sacramento and Washington, DC.

            I was a lifelong Democrat until I woke up about ten years ago and saw how ineffective they are at governing and how corrupt they have become in the thirst for power in this state and nationally. Insanity is voting for the same political party and expecting a different result.

          • Brian Baker

            “The question is, is Santa Clarita all that different from West LA? ”

            Oh, H-E-E-E-LL yeah!

            Why do you think so many of us moved out here to begin with?

            I’ll tell you why: “quality of life” issues. We LIKE the small-town feel of Santa Clarita, the traditional American values prevalent here, the conservatism, and we fled that miasmic Dem/socialist swamp of LA in droves.

            WE built this area up, and don’t want carpetbagging American Marxists trying to swarm in like termites and gnawing away at OUR values, and trying turn THIS place into THAT place.

            Bad enough that you crawled out here in 2000. You’re part of the first wave of locusts to descend upon us. He’s even less welcome than you are. Go away.

      • lrglaw

        And BTW you moved here in 2000 according to your short bio, I was brought here to Valencia, CA by my parents in 1972 as a third grader, and have chosen remain living here (wiht breaks for law school out of state and service in the Marine Corps) and I actually started family here in 2013 with the birth of my son. Brian Caforio moved here in November of 2015 , and filed papers to run for Congress only a month after moving into the District. Again, the very definition of a carpetbagger. No one would accuse either you or I of being a carpetbagger if we ran for Congress in this District.

        As for Mr. Caforio being dishonest, he lists on his candidate website, his Judicial Clerkship as evidence of his past public service??? What a joke! I joined the Marine Corps at 18 and attended officer candidate school at 18, while an undergraduate student at CSUN, and I learned something of Public Service that Mr. Caforio has not a clue about.

        Federal Judicial Clerkships are highly sought after, very competitive to obtain jobs, and are often attorneys first jobs after graduating from Law School and/or passing the Bar Exam and are seen by most attorneys as a Resume Builder, and advanced legal training and stepping stone to a lucrative and successful legal career.

        No one in the legal field views Judicial Clerkship’s as a form of “public service.” That is why I call Caforio’s public service as thin, and I also consider this to be a dishonest statement from someone who knows better (listing his federal Judicial Clerkship as “Public Service”). Attorneys seek out low paying judicial clerkships in the hope that the prestige, and legal training and experience they gain in these clerkships will payoff handsomely in future employment opportunities. Just like it has with Mr.Caforio who makes north of $500K as a corporate attorney.

        That and the Bullshit line that he moved into the district to start a family, but files papers to run for congress only a month after he moved into the district. It has been a year since Brian and his spouse moved into the district, “To start a family” and I have not heard or read that he and his spouse are expecting their first child????

        So much for starting a family as the real reason why he moved into our District. . . When you file papers to run for congress a month after moving into my hometown, Valencia, and you tell the public you moved here to start a family, you get the label “dishonest” from me. And carpetbagger.
        A “dishonest carpetbagger” just like Dr. Rogers called Republican Tony Stricttland in 2014. If the shoe fits . . .

        • Thanks for your service to our country! What’s your name again?

          • Brian Baker

            Stop with the idiotic “name” thing.

            It’s lame and ignorant.

          • What a complete jackass. Only an intellectual midget plays the anonymity card.

            Then there’;s this: “…is Santa Clarita all that different from West LA?”

            What an ignorant question.

            If it isn’t substantially different, then why did you or your carpetbagger boyfriend move here? Is it closer to work for you? Were you commuting from the liberal hellhole you left to get to work in Newhall? I doubt it.

            First rule of holes Zaring.

        • Oh, and Mr. Baker (who is at least willing to put his name to his hateful diatribes), I did not “crawl” here, I used a moving service. And not only did I move my family here, I moved my business here too, which saw several employees move their families here too. I pay my taxes, I serve in my community, my kids are honor students, and we all walk in dignity. There’s no need for personal attacks in the political discourse. That whole “walk in dignity” thing, you know …

          • Brian Baker

            All while trying your damnedest to destroy the very quality of life that existed before you ever showed up here in the first place.

            You’re looking for a commendation?

            And thanks for your opinion on my style. You know what they say about opinions…

  • ronos

    OMG nobody reads the voluminous extremist Right blather….
    Vote For Caforio, at least he went to College.

    • tech

      No one accords credibility to your vacuous and content free posts, ronos.

  • NISHKA

    “Time for a change in US Congress”

    The usual rampage in posting from the disenchanted posters.

    • tech

      Your post doesn’t address the “Why?” nor does it rebut the case for retaining Rep. Knight.

  • Hey Zaring, just so you know, if ronos agrees with you, you’re doing something wrong.

  • tech

    “John Zaring’s columns are called too conservative by liberals and too liberal by conservatives…”

    By whom?

    • Tech, you should read my mail!

      • tech

        Non-critical thinkers aren’t in short supply. No rational person would consider you a centrist.

        As a friend of mine put it recently, you’re to the left of Gary Horton and he honestly labels his column “Full Speed to Port”.

      • Anyone with a room temperature or greater IQ knows that your drivel is neither rational nor centrist. Anyone that believes otherwise is either delusional or an ignoramus. Who decided “rational center” was an accurate description of your writings?

        • tech

          I suspect Mr. Zaring pitched the title to The Signal, CG.

          • I assumed that as well tech. It’s amusing to watch Zaring try to convince us that there are those who think he’s too conservative. I guess he’s used to fellow liberal democrats that will fall for anything.

          • Seeing as this is MY column and I am an outside opinion columnist and not a Signal employee, yes fellas, I named the column. They reflect a center-LEFT perspective, which I argue, in today’s America, is the ‘rational center’. I am not a liberal, not that I see anything wrong with liberals, or conservatives for that matter. To prove my point, I suggest you compare my views to those of, let’s say, Charlie Vignola’s — I think a fair assessment will conclude that my friend Charlie and I are in two different wings of the Democratic party. You guys simply like to label anyone who is to the left of YOU a liberal, when in reality, the people to your immediate left are simply conservatives (which you flame-throwers, I’m afraid to tell you, are not). If the shoe fits …

          • Brian Baker

            “I am not a liberal”

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

          • Brian Baker

            “To prove my point, I suggest you compare my views to those of, let’s say, Charlie Vignola’s —”

            Pretty much an echo chamber.

          • ” They reflect a center-LEFT perspective”

            You’re delusional.

          • tech

            “Non-critical thinkers aren’t in short supply. No rational person would consider you a centrist.” – tech

            “I suspect Mr. Zaring pitched the title to The Signal…” – tech

            Seeing as this is MY column and I am an outside opinion columnist and not a Signal employee, yes fellas, I named the column. They reflect a center-LEFT perspective, which I argue, in today’s America, is the ‘rational center’.” – John Zaring

            Thank you for your confirmation of my rational assessment and the source of your soi–disant column, Mr. Zaring. As to your assertion that the USA is “center-LEFT”, how does that square with these statistics?

            During Obama’s Presidency, Democrats have lost:

            • 900 state legislature seats
            • 12 governors
            • 69 House seats
            • 13 Senate seats.

            We have your subjective opinion and my presentation of facts, Mr. Zaring.

  • NISHKA

    UCLA my favorite college on the west coast and Yale being my favorite college on the east coast.

  • James de Bree

    I suggest that readers read this column in conjunction with the Signal’s editorial endorsing Mr. Knight. The link to that editorial is at: http://www.signalscv.com/2016/10/07/view-vote-steve-knight-congress/

    This is an extremely close race. I regularly check the site http://www.electionprojection.com, which has a remarkable record of accurately assessing the polls. Last week they changed their assessment of the race from a moderate chance of the Republicans holding the seat to a weak chance of the Republicans holding the seat. That means that the Republican candidate is leading in the polls by a narrow margin. So it appears that the money being spent by the Democrats is having an effect on this race.

  • James de Bree

    Mr. Zaring stated: “With Republican nominee Donald J. Trump wreaking havoc in the presidential race, and Knight refusing to disavow him…”

    Please see the following link:

    http://www.signalscv.com/2016/10/08/steve-knight-releases-statement-saying-cannot-support-donald-trump/

    Mr. Zaring also suggests that Rep. Knight’s refusal to disavow Trump will depress Republican turnout. I am not sure that Mr. Knight’s refusal will have any impact on Republican turnout. Furthermore, the important turnout in this race will be that of the independent voters in the district who are center right folks. Those are the people who will decide this election.

    Also another question for Mr. Zaring, why is it that the supporters of Mr. Knight are “dark money groups,” but there are no dark money groups that have supported Mr. Caforio’s campaign? I suppose all of his money comes from enlightened Democratic Party political donors who are pure as the driven snow. Irrespective of the source of campaign funds, as the Signal editorial points out, Mr. Caforio is running a very nasty smear campaign. To quote from their editorial:

    “Caforio’s negative campaign machine loves to paint Knight as a far-right misanthropist – a hater of seniors, women, immigrants and any other group that the Democratic Party thinks will be receptive to Democratic rhetoric.”

    Sort of sounds like what is said in this column. The Signal goes onto provide the following example:

    “One Caforio attack ad, like all of them adorned with an unflattering photo of the congressman, trumpets Knight’s “terrifying prescription for women’s health” on one side. The flip side pairs the same Knight photo with one of Donald Trump, clearly taken separately, and headlines it with “Steve Knight and Donald Trump would eliminate women’s health care options,” partaking – as we noted earlier in this endorsement series – of the low-hanging fruit in the current campaign: Trump’s presidency.”

    As the Signal also pointed out, Caforio has not discussed any local issues. Read Mr. Caforio’s “plan” to save Social Security and Medicare. Social security requires three workers to support every retiree. The demographics of the baby boom have allowed that scheme to continue for nearly 80 years. But the demographics are catching up as retired people comprise an increasingly larger segment of the population. Mr. Caforio is powerless to deal with the situation.

    In this way, his campaign is very much like that of Donald Trump. He identified an issue, Social Security, that resonates with a segment of the voting population. He then proposes solutions that won’t work. Furthermore, he is powerless to implement the solutions he proposes. Yet he fails to address the local issues that he would be able to influence if elected. Of course, he hasn’t lived long enough in the district to truly understand the local issues. All of his talking points apparently come from the DNC.

    I am certainly not a big fan of Mr. Knight, but from what I have seen, he is superior to Caforio.

    • Thank you for using your name and not some moniker; I believe people are always more courteous if their name is attached!

      It was wise for Knight to disavow Trump — but what took him so long? Trump has been a dumpster fire for months and months, and what he was recorded saying this time is only marginally worse than the many things he’s already said. That was my point. And also, by the way, I wrote this piece prior to the Access Hollywood tape hitting the political ether.

      To clarify, I was saying that Trump will depress Republican turn-out, not Knight. Knight will be affected by Trump. As for the 25th indie vote being center-right, polling has shown a marked shift over the past 10 years, and while the district remains right-leaning, only by a very slim margin. Registration, on the other hand, has totally switched. Projections are that by the time registration ends in a few days, Dems will outnumber Rs by somewhere in the 7000 range. That’s a major change, which reflects my point that if Dems vote, Dems will win.

      As for dark money, to be clear, I believe it is ALL bad and ALL needs to go away. Once Hillary appoints 1 or 2, maybe even 3, Supreme Court justices, I suspect we will see Citizens United overturned, since we all know that no politicians — not Rs OR Ds — will address true campaign finance reform with legislation, since it is their lifeline. In Knight’s case, since he has done a poor job of fundraising for himself, he is dependent upon this outside Super PAC money. And in Caforio’s case, since he is the challenger trying to turn a historically red seat blue, he will also benefit from the outside spending (although I think his support is party spending and not outside Super PACs). It is the system in place NOW, and you’ve got to game it if you want to win. #SadButTrue

      As for the low-hanging fruit comment, I will simply say this: it is ‘low-hanging fruit’ for a reason! Most people disagree with Knight. Surely you know this to be true? But if not, check the polling.

      As to how Knight looks in photos, that’s on him. How he behaves in public forums illustrate why these photos exist. If I were advising him, I’d suggest — in strong terms — that he recognize that he’s not in his LAPD uniform anymore, so his gruff “my way or the highway” approach to personal interaction needs some serious adjustment. If he doesn’t like the photos, in other words, smile more and be courteous to everyone. Did you watch the KHTS debate? My Lord, I thought he was going to spontaneously combust a few times.

      As for Caforio not discussing local issues, I’m sure he’d be happy to discuss all of the local issues. Except that’s not how this works, and since you clearly are a smart guy, I suspect you know that. This election will be about turn-out. Period. And what Caforio is doing is intended to drive Dem turn-out. He’d waste his resources to try and convince Rs to vote for him. He needs Dems and MODERATE independent voters, and highlighting the things Knight believes which put him outside of those two groups, is smart politics, plain and simple. You have to play ‘the game’ to win (not to lose), right?! It will be close, very close, for the first time e-v-e-r ever. I, for one, can’t wait to see how it turns out …

      • Brian Baker

        “I believe people are always more courteous if their name is attached!”

        And I’d say my own comments kinda disprove THAT theory, don’t they?

        You’re batting about zero so far today.

        • Yes Brian, you are classless. Glad to see you recognize, if not revel in, your lack of dignity.

          • Brian Baker

            Wow, I’m truly cut to the quick, I’m sure.

            “Class” is the absolute least of my concerns when I’m fighting people intent on destroying the entire fundamental fabric of this country, which means you and people like you. Mockery, scorn, and ridicule are all ammunition in my arsenal.

            As far as I’m concerned, NO Dem/socialist has any “class”, so I fight fire with fire.

      • James de Bree

        John—I have always used my real name. In the old on-line posting my moniker was jdebree. I write columns regularly for the Signal. My goal is to engage in intelligent dialog without insults. Just so you know, hopeful has a history of intelligent commentary without insulting people. I am sure that she fears reprisals if her true identity was revealed, so she goes by the moniker “hopeful.”

        Like you, I am a former Republican—but unlike you, I am disgusted with both parties. My politics are center right.

        It is interesting that comments to which you responded negatively were principally the quotes from the Signal editorial.

        You stated: “And also, by the way, I wrote this piece prior to the Access Hollywood tape hitting the political ether.”

        That is a fair point. I have been burned by having events occur between the time that I wrote a column and the time it was published. Also, you raise a fair point about why Republicans don’t disavow Trump. They are in a hard place to do so because of the disarray of the Republican Party. The Republican Party is not controlled by a strong interest like the way the Clintons’ control the Democratic Party. If the Democrats had a similar disarray, Bernie would have been their nominee.

        I disagree with your assessment that the key to this election lies in the Democratic votes. You are right that the Democratic registration is close to and may exceed the Republican registration, but you forget that there is an equally large number of independents. Most of them are former Republicans. It is my impression that Caforio has not resonated with them. So in my view they are the large unknown in this election.

        Electionprojecton.com removed the link to this Congressional race on their site, but when I looked a couple of days ago, they indicated that this race is getting closer. I believe Knight was leading in the polls, but his lead was barely larger than the margin of error.

        As to your commentary about Citizens United, I tend to think the decision required some creative reasoning to reach the conclusion. However, Citizens United merely put right wing political contributors on an equal footing with left wing contributors. The largest contributors are labor unions. To be fair, an overturning of Citizens United must be accompanied with curtailing political activity by labor unions.

        • Sorry for my delay in responding; I’ve been out door-knocking. I respect you, and agree with many of your statements above. The word ‘rational’ applies to your perspective.

          The Knight vs. Caforio race is indeed within the margin of error, and I suspect that scares the bejesus out of local Rs. It is certainly a first! Will Caforio un-seat Knight? We’re all just guessing at this point. But in another first for this district, lots and lots and lots of outside money is going to flood our TVs and mailboxes from both sides, and I still believe it will come down to turn-out. The events of the past 40 or so hours certainly will hurt Republican turn-out, but it could, conversely, hurt Clinton too, in that if she wins so decisively back east — and I think she will win in an electoral landslide — that people in both parties might skip voting altogether. It will be interesting to see how it all turns out!

          We just don’t know.

          Either way, I truly believe that America works best when our elected officials seek principle compromise, country before party. That hasn’t happened much over the past decade, and it needs to change or the insurrection of blowhards will continue. We can do better, we Americans, something everyone should aspire to do …

  • “So get out and vote, Democrats. No excuses this time. Let’s send Bryan Caforio to Washington.”

    And Zaring is mystified why anyone would bristle at his self-applied label “The Rational Center”. So out of touch.

    • Capt Gene — who are you too? — but anyway, I am a centrist Democrat. My positions have earned me the silly ‘DINO’ label from some of those found so far to the left that they left the stadium (maybe you, Baker and the other regular posters can find them in the parking lot?). You can call me anything you want — and have — but it will not change my positions, nor will it take me out of the center of American political discourse. Had your party’s Primary voters sent John Kasich to their convention, I would have endorsed him. It didn’t. Your brilliant party nominated Trump. That’s on you guys, so you’d better prepare for the electoral landslide headed his/your way.

      • Brian Baker

        ” I am a centrist Democrat… nor will it take me out of the center of American political discourse ”

        Next time issue a Spew Alert before making those zany comments. I could have sprayed coffee all over my keyboard.

        Dude, you really are waaaaay out there in your own universe if you think you’re ANYWHERE near the “center” of anything other than the group of radical leftists who’ve hijacked the former Democrat Party.

        And here’s another hint for ya, free of charge. If you think you’re gaining ANY credibility by challenging people based on their use of screen names instead of their real names, you’ve got another think coming. All that shows is that either you don’t know zip about how comment threads on the internet work, or you’re SO desperate for some basis to challenge your opponents that you’re thrashing around in irrelevancies. Take your pick.

        • Mr Baker, the gleeful pride you take with regard to your lack of class is truly remarkable. I prefer to behave differently. To each his own.

          • Brian Baker

            And I just addressed your typical Dem/socialist whining, above.

            Poor, poor you…

            I guess I’ll use this post to issue a “trigger warning” about my upcoming “microaggressions” so you can go find yourself a “safe space”.

            Happy now?

        • I already, and several times, have answered this question ‘hopeful’. No city or valley or district is perfect Working to bring change, or as I prefer to see it, evolution, is a worthy endeavor. I’ve now lived here for over 16 years, and that’s beyond long enough to see what works and what can be improved. I get it, you don’t like my perspective, or that of Democrats in general, and that’s your right. Unfortunately, the arrogance you display, along with Mr. Baker and a few of the others who comment every week, in insisting that only you have the only perspective that matters, is concerning to many people. It also runs counter to the conceit of democracy. In other words, it is un-American. The times, as Bob Dylan once sang, are a changing. You clearly do not like that fact — and I suspect your resistance is deep-rooted and buried in dark places — but it’s happening anyway. Whether you like it or not. I prefer when good people with convictions work together to effect change, instead of fighting incessantly. You guys, well, it seems you prefer and enjoy the fight. I’m done fighting for today. You win! Instead, I’m going to canvass for Caforio and Christy Smith right now … have a lovely day!

          • Brian Baker

            You see, hopeful, it’s “arrogant” for US to want to fight Zanger’s “change”, but apparently it’s NOT “arrogant” for HIM to want to force his change upon us who have already been living here.

            Yet more of that Dem/socialist hypocrisy that seems to be built into their DNA.

      • “Capt Gene — who are you…”

        Gene Walker.

        “I am a centrist Democrat…”

        You are free to believe that makes you part of the “rational center, but it doesn’t make it so. Plus, all the steaming “pieces” you offered here say otherwise.

  • hopeful

    A while back, John Zaring admitted that he moved to Santa Clarita for a better quality of life, yet he immediately tries to change it? What is wrong with you, John?

    • ‘Hopeful,’ what’s your real name? Nothing is perfect, friend. Change is good.

      • Brian Baker

        Again the lame and pathetic challenge of people using screen names. The last hope of the truly desperate.

        I’ve raised the same issue, on several occasions. Dem/socialists spend a few decades imposing their crazy policies on their neighborhoods. Those neighborhoods turn into cesspools. So they move to some OTHER neighborhood with a better quality of life, and immediately try to impose the same repugnant policies that trashed the areas they left to begin with.

        The very definition of “stuck on stupid”.

        No, Zaring, change ISN’T necessarily “good”. Hey, here’s a thought. Venezuela had some of that “change” you’re babbling about. How’s THAT been working out?

  • hopeful

    Trying to divert attention now, John? Feel free to think that you are above the anonymous people on this forum, but you are no better than anyone else here. Regardless of whether someone wants to keep their real name private or public has no bearing on what is being voiced.

    I asked a valid question. You moved here recently because you wanted a better life for you and your family, yet you immediately want to vote to change what you admittedly moved here for. Why is that, John? You haven’t written a single positive thing about any Republican here, and only want to vote in Democrats, one of which is carpet bagger, who has no history in our community, just like you. If this community was such a good place that you chose to move here, why do you want to change it?

    • Brian Baker

      Bang, hopeful!

      Yep, but WAY too much logic there.

    • Somehow my answer to this, ‘hopeful’, appeared in the thread a few comments above instead of here. Sorry to make you search, but scroll up please …

      • Brian Baker

        Well, let me help out with his comment and MY reply.

        Zanger: “I already, and several times, have answered this question ‘hopeful’. No city or valley or district is perfect Working to bring change, or as I prefer to see it, evolution, is a worthy endeavor. I’ve now lived here for over 16 years, and that’s beyond long enough to see what works and what can be improved. I get it, you don’t like my perspective, or that of Democrats in general, and that’s your right. Unfortunately, the arrogance you display, along with Mr. Baker and a few of the others who comment every week, in insisting that only you have the only perspective that matters, is concerning to many people. It also runs counter to the conceit of democracy. In other words, it is un-American. The times, as Bob Dylan once sang, are a changing. You clearly do not like that fact — and I suspect your resistance is deep-rooted and buried in dark places — but it’s happening anyway. Whether you like it or not. I prefer when good people with convictions work together to effect change, instead of fighting incessantly. You guys, well, it seems you prefer and enjoy the fight. I’m done fighting for today. You win! Instead, I’m going to canvass for Caforio and Christy Smith right now … have a lovely day!”

        Me: “You see, hopeful, it’s ‘arrogant’ for US to want to fight Zanger’s ‘change’, but apparently it’s NOT ‘arrogant’ for HIM to want to force his change upon us who have already been living here.

        “Yet more of that Dem/socialist hypocrisy that seems to be built into their DNA.”

        And there you have that exchange. I wonder if the guy’s got a franchise on all that condescension he drips?

      • tech

        “No city or valley or district is perfect Working to bring change, or as I prefer to see it, evolution, is a worthy endeavor.”

        You beg the question here, Mr. Zaring. Understanding that you escaped from Los Angeles to a functional community, you need to successfully argue why application of “Progressive” policies will improve the SCV despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary that you know will be cited.

        That’s what you haven’t answered despite being asked by multiple persons over a period of months. It’s not condescension, it’s a request for facts to support your assertion.

        “I’m going to canvass for Caforio and Christy Smith right now…”

        More partisan “Rational Center” activities, no doubt! 😀

        • tech, expect to be asked for your real name…perhaps your educational background as well.

          • tech

            I was thinking I was going to be asked for my tax returns for asking impertinent questions that remain unanswered by Mr. Zaring, CG.

          • Your question was reasonable and respectful, Zaring characterized it as an “attack”, ignores it, then expects you to abandon your anonymity in order to get his attention. Unbelievable.

            This is an issue between him and The Signal, the rational man would know this.

  • Please indulge me a little, and allow me to change the subject a bit. Given the historic and important nature of this election locally and nationally, I’d like the opinion of the self proclaimed “rational center” on mandatory voter ID laws. Is the “rational center” in favor or against them?

    How about it Zaring, must be hard to pick one side or the other being right in the center and all.

  • hopeful

    “The times, as Bob Dylan once sang, are a changing. You clearly do not like that fact — and I suspect your resistance is deep-rooted and buried in dark places — but it’s happening anyway.”

    hmmmm, and you call me arrogant?

    Surprisingly, we aren’t that different John, and in fact we have much more in common than you realize, plus friends in common, but go ahead, make yourself feel better by attacking me.

    For the record, I consider myself fiscally conservative, but socially liberal, and when I am not volunteering as you do, I research positions before I decide who to vote for, and what propositions are worthy of my support. I am not a partisan, and I am also not a single-issue voter. I try my best to be open-minded and respectful, but that gets difficult when I am confronted by hypocrisy and people, who claim to want change, but who vote for status quo.

    • I apologize for the attack; frankly, after fending off Capt. Gene, Tech, and Mr. Baker’s nonsense, the criticism all begins to blend together. My intent, to be honest, was to isolate the idea that change is a bad thing, that once people move here, they can’t influence the future. That is what I find arrogant. Whether our views are close or not I can’t speak to because I don’t spend much time on these pages, reading through comments, like the people I mentioned above relentlessly do. Regardless, as I’ve said repeatedly over the years in many columns, whether we’re talking about The Rational Center or Democratic Voices or elsewhere when I was writing for SCTV, in order for democracy to work, there must be principled compromise. Little of what gets spewed in these forums is principled.

      That said, I do believe that everyone who posts should be REQUIRED to do so under their own name, because most people — not Brian Baker certainly, who revels in his vile — will moderate their views to acceptable standards when they have to ‘own it’.

      If we have actual friends in common, people who know me, then I’m sure they will tell you that I walk in dignity. Just as I’m sure that their inclusion of you in their life is a statement about your quality. I doubt any of my friends include Mr. Baker in their circle.

      • No comment on voter ID laws Zaring? Can we assume that, being in the “rational center”, you could either take it or leave it?

      • Brian Baker

        Trigger alert.

        “I doubt any of my friends include Mr. Baker in their circle.”

        Mr. Baker wouldn’t consider having any friend who includes you or any of your ilk in their own circle.

        We’re in a war for the soul of this country. I don’t consort with the enemy.

      • tech

        “Little of what gets spewed in these forums is principled.

        That said, I do believe that everyone who posts should be REQUIRED to do so under their own name, because most people — not Brian Baker certainly, who revels in his vile — will moderate their views to acceptable standards when they have to ‘own it’.”

        Non sequitur. Please provide proof that I’m unprincipled or uncivil, Mr. Zaring.

        Painting with a broad brush is intellectually lazy and fallacious. If you’re going to devote time to debate in the comments, specificity is required if you wish to earn respect.

        • Brian Baker

          There’s another arrogant aspect to that quote, too, tech.

          “… will moderate their views to acceptable standards when they have to ‘own it’.”

          What does “acceptable standards” mean? “Acceptable” to whom? And notice this: what’s being “moderated”? Their tone? No. Their “views”. One’s “view” is one’s opinion. One’s ideology or philosophy. How they see and relate to the world around them.

          In plain English, it’s our opinion that Zaring feels doesn’t meet “acceptable standards”.

          The opening sentence simply confirms that: “Little of what gets spewed in these forums is principled.”

          Now, I’m certainly aggressive in what I write, and what I write is firmly rooted in my principles. But by his own words, Zaring isn’t objecting to the tone of the discussion. He considers our opinions themselves to be without principles that meet “acceptable standards”.

          Res ipsa loquitur.

          Clinton committed a random act of honesty when she called us “deplorables”, but that’s exactly how she and the Zarings of the world see us: an unprincipled mob of yahoos whose opinions don’t meet “acceptable standards”. The only difference between the two is that Zaring tries to hide his contempt behind holier-than-thou condescension and sanctimony.

  • hopeful

    I do agree somewhat with your comment about people rising above crude and rude comments when everyone knows who they are. However, as someone, who has been posting on this forum for years, people, regardless of whether they are anonymous or not, weed themselves out fairly quickly, For instance, “Tech” leans right, and is a firm Constitutionalist, but he doesn’t degrade others. He does, however, call people out on their hypocrisy, and he provides links to support his positions.

    I have called out people on all sides of the aisle here…including Brian Baker and TheRightStuff (Inquiring Minds), both of whom lean Right…one of which uses his real name, and one of which is anonymous. I have also called out Indy and stevehw, both of whom lean left, and both of whom are anonymous. In the long run, it really doesn’t matter whether someone is anonymous or not. What is important is what people voice, the facts they present, and the reasoning behind their opinions.

    • Brian Baker

      I don’t “lean right”, hopeful.

      I’m a strict constitutional conservative. There’s no “leaning” involved anywhere.

  • noonan

    I was going to say something but apparently to the rational center folks my words matter less if I don’t use my real name.

    Anonymous words matter!

    • Brian Baker

      😀

    • tech

      Indeed, noonan. Publius and The Federal Farmer were unavailable for comment.

  • NISHKA

    Nothing is perfect. Change is good and so is progression.
    John Zaring no matter what one’s opinion is the pesky and prickly posters will retaliate with negativity.
    Your columns are straight forward which is hard for pp posters to take.
    Try as you may the pp posters will misconstrue,twist, demean, every opinion column you write.
    John, keep up your opinion columns and try to discount the negativity.

    • tech

      Assertions and ad hominem attacks without a supporting argument, LADIMAS/projalice11/alice abernathy/NISHKA. Again.

      “Nothing is perfect. Change is good and so is progression.”

      Perhaps you can fill in for Mr. Zaring’s demurral, i.e. successfully argue why application of “Progressive” policies will improve the SCV despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary that you know will be cited.

      Please proceed. We’ll wait.

  • As suspected, Zaring cannot answer your very respectfully presented question, so he tried to deflect with the old “that’s not even your real name” gambit. That tactic must have worked where he used to live.