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I take exception to your cartoon published Jan. 31. In Santa Clarita, we are Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, Mormon, etc.

This “community” newspaper has been leaning more and more leftist with every issue printed. When did you decide to head into the abyss that the country just clearly rejected?

It’s bad enough that the mainstream media is constantly bombarding us on every newscast and most TV series with their leftist rhetoric, but now we have to pick up our local paper and have it shoved down our throats even more?

Now that you have included the clearly left-leaning USA Today in your pages, we have to plow through all their progressive garbage in order to maybe find some local sports! Why don’t you just fold in the New York Times and be honest about it?

President Trump’s orders said nothing about Muslims. It’s a lie by the media to say the president specifically banned Muslims.

And here it is with my hometown “community” newspaper drinking the Kool-Aid publishing this cartoon. Where were your leftist editorials when Obama did the same thing in 2011?

I’ve lived here 40 years and subscribed to this paper the whole time and am truly saddened by what it’s turning into.

God Bless America!

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  • Gil Mertz

    There is no more intolerant and brutal religion in the world today that Muslims. Ask the thousands of Christians and Jews who have been subject to their imprisonment, torture, and murders over the years simply because they do not bow to Allah. We are definitely NOT all Muslims, thank God!

    • Karen Rose

      Hmm. At this point I’m beginning to suspect you are a 12 year old internet troll hiding behind the photo of a cis white male in order to provoke Social Justice Warriors. I hope that’s the case. Make no mistake was you just said is hate speech. I’m surprised it made it through the filters. I’m short on time so I’m just going to quote Matthew Rowley via Wikipedia here.
      “Religious violence, like all violence, is a cultural process that is context-dependent and very complex. Oversimplifications of religion and violence often lead to misguided understandings and exaggerations of causes for why some people commit violence and why most do not commit violence. Religious violence is primarily the domain of the violent “actor”, which may be distinguished between individual and collective forms of violence. Overall, religious violence is perpetrated for a wide variety of ideological reasons and is generally only one of the contributing social and political factors that leads to unrest.”
      Modern Christian’s are not responsible for the Holocaust. Modern Catholic’s are not to blame for the Spanish Inquisition. We must take into account time, place and politics. My Muslim nieghbors is not responsible for 9/11.
      This is very important to understand.

      • Gil Mertz

        I’m not talking about ISIS extremists or peace-loving Muslims enjoying the freedoms of America. I’m talking about Muslims around the world. If you go to the Open Doors USA website, you will see that of the top 50 countries for religious persecution in 2017, 35 are Muslim. How is condemning these atrocities hate speech? I’d think all the champions of tolerance on this thread would be joining me in condemning this intolerance regardless of who’s doing it. But instead of acknowledging this religious persecution, you’re only upset within the messenger. Weird.

    • Mai Do

      Was the blood shed of the Christian crusade not brutal? Was the interrogation of the Inquisition not torturous? Was the murder of indigenous peoples who refused to convert not intolerant? It is hypocritical to point at a few radical, extreme followers of a faith — if you could call them followers at all, when they are nothing close to adherent — and deem the whole faith intolerant and brutal when followers of your own faith have, with intolerance and brutality, murdered civilizations and ravaged lands over the centuries. I wouldn’t call the Christian faith inherently intolerant and brutal even in light of the cases highlighted above, and in the same way, I wouldn’t call Islam inherently intolerant and brutal just because of a few occurrences of extremism.

      • Gil Mertz

        Citing other examples of religious intolerance is an odd rationalization for Muslim intolerance around the world but I’ll grant you that Christianity was once the most brutal and intolerant religion in the world…900 years ago. And if you think Muslim intolerance is limited to just a few extreme examples, I hope you’ll at least examine the evidence I posted before drawing your conclusions.

    • Kieran John Hawe

      Let us also not forget that there are 2.2 BILLION Muslims in the world…BILLION. To say that an entire religion is intolerant and brutal is just plan wrong. All these people who become experts must have a deep network of Muslims they talk to / exposed to and must have been to a muslim country or even a community in order to speak with such authority.

      • Gil Mertz

        I’m not an authority but I posted a link to one. I invite you to show me what is not true about their claims before drawing your conclusions.

        • Kieran John Hawe

          This right here is my point. you do realize that not all muslims live in the middle east right? You do realize the countries with the largest population of muslims aren’t in the middle east right? In fact of the 7 countries on the travel ban only 1 (Iran) is in the top 10 when it comes #’s…but you knew this right?

          But, congrats on ignoring my point and going off on your own direction…well played.

          • Gil Mertz

            I wasn’t ignoring your point, Kieran, I just couldn’t tell that you actually had one. You’re hung up on geography. I’m hung up on the brutal intolerance of Muslims around the world regardless of where they live. Why would any reasonable person find that insulting? The evidence is overwhelming. If you believe in tolerance, you should be joining me in condemning it, not trying to explain it away.

          • Kieran John Hawe

            I am a Christian and a follower of Jesus so, yes Gil, I believe in tolerance, compassion and everything else that Jesus taught us…for all people. No one has argued about the religious persecution and other atrocities you brought up – because that isn’t what anyone is talking about here.

            My point, so we are clear, is that I do not believe in taking an entire religion (or any group of people) and lumping them into one category based off what actions a government or acts of a fraction of a % do. You know why? Because that is wrong.

            I am a f’ing proud American who believes in what our founding fathers created. I am the son of a veteran and grandson of irish immigrants. I am a NY’er who was there on 9/11….where i saw people of all faiths come together to help. I saw muslim countries holding candlelight vigils and denouncing the terrorist acts.

            Gil you have every right to have your own opinions and say whatever you want…just like I have every right to disagree. It is one of the MANY things that make this country great… a country founded and built by immigrants .

          • Gil Mertz

            I am also a sinner saved by grace, Kieran, but I’m finding a few contradictions in your comments which perhaps you can clarify.

            First, you insist that no one is arguing about religious persecution which I brought up and that’s not what anyone is talking about here. Seriously? That seems to be all that people want to talk about here. It seems as long as we cast blame at Americans for any hint of discrimination against Muslims – real or imagined – it’s applauded, but if someone points out the horrific abuses by Muslims against others, people freak out.

            Second, you keep implying that when I say Muslims, that I’m lumping them all into one pot. Look at an earlier post you made:

            “””So, when Trump bans Muslim nations you are saying he isn’t banning Muslims and the media is lying? Come on.”””

            I hope you know by now that Trump’s EO isn’t “banning” anyone but just a temporary delay for extreme vetting from just seven countries that the Obama administration identified as terrorist threats. Funny how Obama is not a hateful bigot for creating the list, just Trump for enforcing it. But you’re saying that if Trump bans Muslim nations – he’s banning Muslims.

            Well Kieran . . . when civil rights are violated, persecution, imprisonment, and death is being done by Muslim nations against people of other faiths, this is being done by….Muslims, right? I thought it would be a no-brainer that I wasn’t talking about every Muslim. Unlike some of the irresponsible posters who have attacked me, I can embrace diversity AND condemn intolerance at the same time.

            If I say there is no greater incarceration rate than among blacks, am I talking about every black person in America? If I say there is no greater abuse of drugs than among young people, am I talking about every young person? That’s ridiculous. So when I say there is no more brutal and intolerant religion in the world than among Muslims, I’m not talking about every Muslim on earth as people keep accusing.

            And Kieran, this is not just my personal opinion. I’ve offered at least two sources to back up my statement but you can check any source you like and you’ll find that the highest rate of religious intolerance are in Muslim countries. Though I’ve been repeatedly called a hateful bigot for that statement, no one on this forum has offered any evidence to disprove it. They just lazily attack me.

            America is indeed a country of immigrants. Why is it so offensive to expect it to be done legally – just like every other nation in the world?

          • Kieran John Hawe

            sigh…

          • Gil Mertz

            The sound of someone forced to eat their own words.

    • Laila Hawe

      I urge you to visit a local Mosque/Islamic center to educate yourself. Or better yet, travel. Once you take the time to interact with Muslims (or anyone that is different than you), you will soon realize what my husband and I try to teach our 3 young children; that we are much more alike that different. That we all have the same hopes and dreams for our families. Until you take the time to do this, you will unfortunately continue to spew such ignorant hate.

      • Gil Mertz

        We all have the same hopes and dreams…unless someone factually points out that even Muslims around the world are guilty of brutality and intolerance, then they are ignorant and hateful. You might want to think twice about what you’re teaching your children.

        • charlesmauricedetallyrand

          Where has it been argued that Muslims haven’t been guilty of brutality and intolerance?

          • Gil Mertz

            If you’ll read the ridiculous comments Charles, you’ll see that by bringing it up the champions of tolerance have accused me of hatred, bigotry, and every other evil thing they could imagine in their raw emotions. One poster even tried to rationalize Muslim intolerance by siting other examples of religious intolerance as though that explains it away. All brutality and religious persecution is wrong, including Muslims who are the worst offenders around the world. To deny this truth is burying one’s head in the sand.

    • Castaic Clay

      Where is the rest of the Glee-OP club?

  • Simplymejamie

    Excuse me, plow through all the progressive garbage, maybe we are sick and tired of the right leaning crap that is being thrown out there. We demand a newspaper that shows both side. President Trumps EO is a Religious Ban, the administration has said it, over and over again. Did you read the EO, have you read our Constitution? And, you know more than the ACLU Lawyers and Judges around the country? No, what you know is, your own narrative and the propaganda that is being spoon fed to you daily in the form of Alternative Facts. Also, you have no idea how many of us in Our “Hometown” community are NOT drinking the Alternative Facts that spew out of the WH daily. Have you looked around at our community in your 40 years with blinders on? This community is made up of many religions and back rounds, and the Muslims deserve to be heard also. Why don’t you go look your sports up on line if your so offended. I’m offended by close minded, ill informed people such as yourself. You DO NOT speak for all the people in this community.

  • Kieran John Hawe

    So, when Trump bans Muslim nations you are saying he isn’t banning Muslims and the media is lying? Come on.

    • JoeCommentor

      The word ‘muslim’ isn’t used once in the presidential order. But you are stupid, so it’s easily explained.

      • Kieran John Hawe

        Wow, I stand corrected by someone going by JoeCommentor! Oh wait…

        • JoeCommentor

          Yeah, you do stand corrected by someone who is correct.

          • Kieran John Hawe

            LOL

  • Katrin Travouillon

    To say “We are all Muslim” is an important gesture of solidarity with members of our community who have experienced discrimination in the wake of recent government policies and the rhetoric used to justify them. The people in our community who have been most affected are people of the Muslim faith. Kids have been bullied at school, families fear for their safety and are reluctant or outright scared to identify themselves as Muslims. I am heartened by the decision of the SCV Signal – our community newspaper – to reach out to these people. They are your neighbors, people you do business with on a daily basis, the parents of the children your kids play with at school.
    As somebody who studies the history and development of conflicts around the world, I am not aware of a single example, where the demonization and scapegoating of religious groups, the denigration of journalists and the outright dismissal of intellectuals and their work has led to the establishment of a more peaceful and just democratic society.
    So, thank you SCV Signal. We are all Muslim.

    • Gil Mertz

      You can’t be serious. You’re honestly not aware of the demonization of religious groups around the world? Where are you studying? I invite you to review the link I posted. You’ll find tons of well-documented examples.

      And while your grieve for those who have been inconvenienced at the airport for discrimination, many Muslim countries do not believe Israel has the right to exist and want to destroy them. How do you feel about this kind of discrimination against a religious group?

  • Simplymejamie

    Excuse me, plow through all the progressive garbage, maybe we are sick and tired of the right leaning crap that is being thrown out there. We demand a newspaper that shows both side. President Trumps EO is a Religious Ban, the administration has said it, over and over again. Did you read the EO, have you read our Constitution? And, you know more than the ACLU Lawyers and Judges around the country? No, what you know is, your own narrative and the propaganda that is being spoon fed to you daily in the form of Alternative Facts.

    • Gil Mertz

      Please enlighten us. What does the Constitution say about immigration?

      • charlesmauricedetallyrand

        Well the 14th amendment certainly applies.

        • Gil Mertz

          Which part applies to Trump’s EO?

          • Simplymejamie

            It must truly pain your soul to live in such a big blue, ethnically diverse state as ours. Tell you what, I’ll pray for you, that you find peace from the turmoil you obviously are feeling. God Bless you Gil, have a lovely weekend.

          • Gil Mertz

            Thank you for your personal concern and prayers, Jamie, but it is well with my soul. I’m just disappointed by your narrow version of diversity.

            Not any of my detractors asked me to explain my view or offer evidence to support it. You just presumed without any dialogue that I must be a hateful bigot. Even after posting irrefutable evidence to support my post, the self-righteous prejudice continues.

            Unlike you, Jamie, I believe intolerance should be condemned no matter what the source. I celebrate diversity. It is the arrogant hypocrisy that troubles me.

          • charlesmauricedetallyrand

            As a question Gil, and this isn’t rhetorical, I’m actually very curious to your opinion here, how did you react or what were you feelings towards Trump’s initial proposal to ban all Muslims from entering into the United States? I understand that in its current form you don’t feel the travel ban is a ban directed at Muslims. But what were your thoughts when you first heard the initial proposal when Trump was a candidate? Did it bother you at any level did you have any moral objections?

          • Gil Mertz

            Totally fair question Charles and I appreciate your gracious spirit in asking. In light of recent terrorist attacks by Muslim extremists, Trump suggested a “temporary ban until our elected representatives could find out what’s going on”. I had no problem with that statement. Even Senator Chuck Schumer said at that time that, “A pause on refugees may be necessary”

            Sadly, Trump’s words have been grossly taken out of context that he wants to permanently ban all Muslims from ever coming to America – which is not at all what he said. And even though Schumer agreed with Trump at the time, now Schumer calls this “mean spirited”. Such a hypocrite. There is not a “ban” on Muslims coming to America. Just “extreme” vetting for those coming in from the seven nations that the Obama administration identified as a terror threat.

            But Democrats and the media saw this as a political opportunity and have been spreading irresponsible and dishonest hysteria for the last week just to hurt Trump – and for no other reason. Schumer tried working up tears about the refugees who were inconvenienced at the airport. Charles, did you see Schumer cry over the 3,000 Americans who were murdered in his state by Islamic terrorists?

            So, what is your opinion of Trump’s suggestion for a temporary ban on Muslims until our elected officials can figure out what’s happening?

          • charlesmauricedetallyrand

            I’ll answer that but it will take some time.

          • Gil Mertz

            I would welcome your thoughtful response, Charles. Like many others, my thoughts are evolving on this as it’s new to most of us. I find the “We are all Muslim” meme as helpful as “We are all left-handed”. The issue is complicated and needs solutions based in reality.

            I’m all for welcoming immigrants and providing a path to citizenship. Sadly, we also know that groups such as ISIS are exploiting this opportunity to bring in terrorists to America. The question becomes, how do we extend this path for immigrants and refugees while safeguarding our nation? If not through extreme vetting, what is the answer?

        • Simplymejamie

          We shall soon see Charles, I’m sure you know more than the Federal judges and the ACLU Lawyers. I look forward to it making its way to the Supreme Court. And if you’re going to defend it, call it what it is, a Religious Ban. Are you a Christian Charles, Just curious while you’re supporting Religious Discrimination?

          • charlesmauricedetallyrand

            I also look forward to it making its way through the courts and I believe it will be struck down. Given that I cited the 14th amendment which states all people are entitled to due process and protection under the law which despite what some may argue here on this website includes even non citizens you might want to rethink whether or not I am in support of religious discrimination.

          • Gil Mertz

            Are you a Christian Jamie? Just curious what compels you to judge others and and spread things that aren’t true to advance your narrow worldview. When I respectfully asked Charles to explain which part of the 14th Amendment would apply to Trump’s EO, you jumped in with the charge of bigotry which seems to be the default position of those who can’t explain their positions. When someone pulls the conversation into that gutter, it’s obvious they’ve lost the debate.

  • JoeCommentor

    No, i am not ‘muslim’ especially not a ‘good’ one who believes in the caliphate, theocracy, sharia, jihad, honor killing, non-education of females, female genital mutilation. Shall I stop there, John?

  • Gil Mertz

    Let me use this means to respond to those who responded to my post about the brutality and intolerance of Muslims around the world. Not one of the “champions of tolerance and diversity” asked me to explain my comments or to offer proof. They just inserted their own conclusions to advance their narrative against anyone who has the audacity to think differently than them.

    Since they’ve already prejudged me as hateful and evil, let me try appealing to any reasonable reader who would like to hear the facts before setting themselves up as judge, jury, and executioner.

    Despite their lazy assertions of things I never said, I’m not referring to the crazed terrorists who have hijacked the Muslim faith. Just as I wouldn’t blame all Christians who bomb abortion clinics, I do not blame all Muslims for ISIS, though I’d love to see more Muslim help to destroy ISIS. I’m also not referring to peace-loving Muslims who come to enjoy the freedoms of America.

    But worldwide, there is no more brutal or intolerant religion than Muslims. Ask the BILLIONS that live throughout the Middle East how they feel about Israel. You can hear it in their hateful rhetoric and terrorist attacks on a regular basis which have been around long before the rise of ISIS.

    As for Christian persecution, I will post a link at the end of my post from one of the most credible authorities on religious persecution in the world today. It lists the top 50 worst countries for religious persecution. Among the worst are Communist countries such as China and North Korea but most are Muslim countries.

    I’ll leave you the choice. You can take a few minutes to review the documented evidence or you can be willfully ignorant and just attack people who are different from you and thus prove that hypocrisy and bigotry comes in all ideologies.

    Link to follow.

  • Gil Mertz

    Did everyone see Chuck Schumer trying to force tears on behalf of the refugees who were inconvenienced at the airport? Did anyone see Chuck Schumer cry when nearly 3,000 of his constituents were horrifically murdered at the hands of Islamic terrorists?

    Me either.

  • Gil Mertz

    Though I recommended Open Doors USA’s report on the top 50 worst offender nations for religious persecution, you can easily do a search in Google and find lots of resources on countries with human rights violations. The Huffington Post has a list of the 10 Ten worst list. In every case, nations dominated by the Muslim religion (most by at least 90%) are by FAR the worst offenders. So when you insist we are all Muslim, speak for yourself.

    For decades we’ve known of these civil rights violations, persecution, imprisonment, and killings of Jews and Christians at the hands of Muslims all over the world, especially throughout the Middle East and northern Africa. The Trump haters appear unmoved by these acts of horrific intolerance. But if a small group of Muslims are detained at our airports for security reasons, only then do we hear about their moral outrage. But be careful because when you expose their hypocrisy, they will lash out with all kinds of infantile names. Truly strange.

    It’s like when Chuck Schumer was trying to force tears while standing with some Muslims who were inconvenienced at an airport. Did anyone see Chuck Schumer cry when nearly 3,000 of his New York constituents were murdered at the hands of Islamic terrorists?

    Me either.