Brian Baker: Different side of concealed carry permits issue

By Lila Littlejohn

Last update: Thursday, December 21st, 2017

The Signal published a letter Dec. 15 entitled “Congressman’s law would endanger law enforcement” regarding the legislation pending in Congress that would establish national reciprocity for concealed gun carry permits (CCWs) that are legitimately issued by any state, and that would require that all other states honor such permits.

As is his wont, letter writer Anthony Breznican’s attack on this proposal, and on Steve Knight for supporting it, seems to be relatively free of facts.

Since the liberalization of CCW issuance started about 30 years ago in Florida, and in stark contradiction to all the “Wild West” hysteria of the time and since, wherever CCW issuance requirements have been eased, the rate of violent crime has fallen.

Further, those people who actually have CCWs turn out to be pretty much the most law-abiding people there are. Their participation in criminal activity happens to be far lower than the national average. It’s almost non-existent.

This is no different from drivers’ licenses. When people from other states come here for a visit, they don’t have to get a California license in order to drive a car. Every state recognizes every other state’s licenses for non-residents. I see absolutely no reason why CCW licenses should be treated any differently.

Further, the very issues that would disqualify anyone from being issued a CCW aren’t any different in other states from what they are in this state, since the basic qualifications are based on federal, not state, laws.

Breznican absurdly claims, “Those from other states who might be blocked from carrying a concealed gun in a state like California, which has restrictions on such a license for those with a record of spousal abuse or other criminal behavior, will now be able to enter carrying a loaded weapon with impunity.”

The problem for Breznican is that federal law bars such people from even owning guns, let alone being issued CCWs, so that claim makes no sense except as an inflammatory bit of groundless rhetoric that has no basis in reality.

His claims may be true in the land where unicorns live, but not here in the real world.

Brian Baker is a Saugus resident.

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Brian Baker: Different side of concealed carry permits issue

The Signal published a letter Dec. 15 entitled “Congressman’s law would endanger law enforcement” regarding the legislation pending in Congress that would establish national reciprocity for concealed gun carry permits (CCWs) that are legitimately issued by any state, and that would require that all other states honor such permits.

As is his wont, letter writer Anthony Breznican’s attack on this proposal, and on Steve Knight for supporting it, seems to be relatively free of facts.

Since the liberalization of CCW issuance started about 30 years ago in Florida, and in stark contradiction to all the “Wild West” hysteria of the time and since, wherever CCW issuance requirements have been eased, the rate of violent crime has fallen.

Further, those people who actually have CCWs turn out to be pretty much the most law-abiding people there are. Their participation in criminal activity happens to be far lower than the national average. It’s almost non-existent.

This is no different from drivers’ licenses. When people from other states come here for a visit, they don’t have to get a California license in order to drive a car. Every state recognizes every other state’s licenses for non-residents. I see absolutely no reason why CCW licenses should be treated any differently.

Further, the very issues that would disqualify anyone from being issued a CCW aren’t any different in other states from what they are in this state, since the basic qualifications are based on federal, not state, laws.

Breznican absurdly claims, “Those from other states who might be blocked from carrying a concealed gun in a state like California, which has restrictions on such a license for those with a record of spousal abuse or other criminal behavior, will now be able to enter carrying a loaded weapon with impunity.”

The problem for Breznican is that federal law bars such people from even owning guns, let alone being issued CCWs, so that claim makes no sense except as an inflammatory bit of groundless rhetoric that has no basis in reality.

His claims may be true in the land where unicorns live, but not here in the real world.

Brian Baker is a Saugus resident.

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  • Gary Bierend

    Well stated Brian. As usual, PA tries to pass off his hysterical rhetoric as fact. It takes about 30 seconds of research to see he is either ill-informed, or lying. Either way, TMS should check before allowing one of his partisan fairy tales in their paper, or on their website.

    • Brian Baker

      Thanks, Gary.

      I agree with you. Though I usually think that a newspaper doesn’t own responsibility for the content of its editorial material provided by others, such as outside columnists or LTE writers, in this case the kid’s letter was just so FACTUALLY wrong on basic issues that it was the equivalent of claiming that the moon is made out of Swiss cheese. It should have never seen the light of day.

  • Ron Bischof

    Nicely done on getting the facts out, Brian.

    Breznican is such a prolific propagandist he requires a team of folks to fact check him.

    • Brian Baker

      Thanks, Ron. Does “propagandist” mean liar?

      • Gary Bierend

        I’d like to know how PA got his fact free response posted hours after your LTE was posted, your response took over a week.

        • Brian Baker

          Yeah, I’m wondering exactly the same thing.

          • Gary Bierend

            His fact free screed could have been posted as a comment. It’s basically the same thing he said in his earlier piece that ignores Federal law, and provides no example of the states that supposedly ignore it as well.

          • Brian Baker

            No, it doesn’t work that way. First, I haven’t seen it as a “comment” anywhere. Heck, my LTE here was basically a copy-and-past submitted as an LTE. But I still had to submit it the usual way.

            I’m stumped.

          • Gary Bierend

            I wasn’t suggesting it went from comment to LTE submission. Just the he had plenty of opportunities to respond in the comments, like we all did, but he didn’t. In other words, he didn’t need to submit an LTE, but apparently he has a fast lane that goes from submission to publication, one can only wonder why.

          • Brian Baker

            Yup. I’m wondering the exact same thing.

      • Ron Bischof

        Serial fabulist is my default description.

        • Brian Baker

          I think you’re very polite, Ron, a very nice quality. I’ll stick with “congenital liar”.

          ToMAYto, toMAHto, right?

  • Gil Mertz

    Well, AB’s heart is at least in the right place. We know how the far-left cares so deeply for the protection of police officers and that their presidential candidates follow the rule of law. If you believe that, I’m guessing you are expecting Santa to climb down your chimney in a couple days.

  • Nellie Smith

    Yes, with Driver’s Licenses they can drive with their out of state license but they must follow California DMV laws!

    • Ron Bischof

      Non sequitur.

      It’s still not a denial of the ability to drive legally in every state.

      • Nellie Smith

        yes but while driving legally one must abide by said state laws

        • Gary Bierend

          I’m not clear on what your point is. Could you elaborate?

        • Ron Bischof

          You’re not making any relevant point, Ms. Smith.

          There’s a de facto ban on issuance of Conceal Carry Permits in Los Angeles County that’s unconstitutional. Permits are only issued to politically connected cronies.

          There’s no law to obey because the county is in violation and is being sued.

          Details:

          It is exceedingly difficult for a law-abiding citizen to meet Los Angeles County’s criteria for a CCW license. Los Angeles County has issued 197 licenses to its 10.2 million residents. This works out to about 1 license for every 50,000 residents.

          The audit, conducted by the California State Auditor, researched samples of 25 CCW licenses issued by three sheriff’s departments, Los Angeles County, Sacramento County, and San Diego County. For Los Angeles, the auditors concluded that the county “did not completely adhere to its policies when issuing any of the 25 CCW licenses we reviewed.” The researchers also determined, “Los Angeles issued all but one of these licenses without the level of documentation it expects to demonstrate that the applicant has met the good cause requirement.”

          Rather than require the level of documentation for “good cause” outlined in their policy, Los Angeles County simply granted licenses to the well-connected. The auditors found the following,

          22 of the 25 CCW licenses we reviewed were issued to applicants with professions that connected them to the law enforcement community: the individuals were former or current law enforcement officers, judges, court commissioners, retired federal agents, and deputy district attorneys.4

          In fact, we found that of the 197 licenses that Los Angeles had issued that were active as of mid-August 2017, only nine were issued to applicants outside of that community.

          https://www.nraila.org/articles/20171222/la-county-issues-carry-licenses-to-the-well-connected-skirts-own-policies

          The National Reciprocity Act is an attempt to correct unconstitutional and arbitrary regulations.

        • Paul Dale

          News Flash Nellie: You have to comply with the laws of ANY STATE while carrying a concealed firearm under a CCW permit issued in another state.
          My brother lives in Arizona and has a CCW AZ issued permit. His permit is accepted in 37 additional states and if he goes to any of those states he MUST comply with the “carry laws” of the state he is in.

    • Brian Baker

      Which is exactly the same thing out-of-state CCW holders would do, too. For example, different states have different laws regarding places where license holders may not take their weapons. In some states you can carry in a bar, in some states you can’t. It’s up to the license holder to know the applicable laws in whatever jurisdiction he’s in.

      Just like when you drive a car. Local laws prevail.

      So, what’s your point?