Duane Mooring: Dangers of fake news

By Signal Contributor

Last update: Wednesday, March 8th, 2017

I am writing in response to Dick Cesaroni’s column “No tax money for illegal immigrants” published Tuesday in The Signal.

The biggest problem with Dick’s rant is with his data and references. His claims of exorbitant costs to the state for illegal immigration is based on data from a report by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).

The Wikipedia page for FAIR reveals that it is an ultra conservative organization not known for fair and/or accurate reporting. Most importantly, the cost to the state (a small fraction of that claimed) is not balanced against the contributions.

Any group of Americans can look bad when only looking at consumption.

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Duane Mooring: Dangers of fake news

I am writing in response to Dick Cesaroni’s column “No tax money for illegal immigrants” published Tuesday in The Signal.

The biggest problem with Dick’s rant is with his data and references. His claims of exorbitant costs to the state for illegal immigration is based on data from a report by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).

The Wikipedia page for FAIR reveals that it is an ultra conservative organization not known for fair and/or accurate reporting. Most importantly, the cost to the state (a small fraction of that claimed) is not balanced against the contributions.

Any group of Americans can look bad when only looking at consumption.

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  • Ron Bischof

    Do you have any data to rebut the FAIR figures, Mr. Mooring?

    • charles maurice detallyrand

      You seem to like the Cato institute and I know you’re aware they are not left wing. Look up what they have to say about the costs of immigration on society at large. Here’s their general outlook if you google “cato and immigration”.

      The overriding impact of immigrants is to strengthen and enrich American culture, increase the total output of the economy, and raise the standard of living of American citizens. Immigrants are advantageous to the United States for several reasons: (1) Since they are willing to take a chance in a new land, they are self-selected on the basis on motivation, risk taking, work ethic, and other attributes beneficial to a nation. (2) They tend to come to the United States during their prime working years (the average age is 28), and they contribute to the workforce and make huge net contributions to old-age entitlement programs, primarily Social Security. (3) Immigrants tend to fill niches in the labor market where demand is highest relative to supply, complementing rather than directly competing with American workers. (4) Many immigrants arrive with extremely high skill levels, and virtually all, regardless of skill level, bring a strong desire to work. (5) Their children tend to reach high levels of achievement in American schools and in society at large.

      • Ron Bischof

        I don’t discard data based on the ideology of the source, as Mr. Mooring has done.

        I’m familiar with CATOs writing on immigration but can’t fail to note you didn’t provide contravening data either.

        Perhaps Mr. Mooring will share a source for his assertion.

        • Gil Mertz

          Good point, Ron. I also noticed that while the writer tries to dismiss one source of information, he offers no source for his own assertions….even as he condemns “fake news”. Go figure.

          • charles maurice detallyrand

            No instead I pointed Ron towards a wealth of sources by a neo-liberal think tank which directly refute the assertions of the study but you’re just not bright enough to understand it and he is too obstinate to even discuss it.

          • Gil Mertz

            As I’d be too dense to understand it, I think I’ll pass, Chuck. This is for geniuses who post at 4:45 in the morning. Geez…get a life.

      • Gil Mertz

        You’re still stuck on your straw man argument, Charles. No one is arguing that immigrants should not be allowed in America. You keep merging legal immigrants with illegal immigrants as though there is no difference. C’mon Chuck…say it with me…you can do it…I-L-L-E-G-A-L. .

      • Gary Bierend

        Chuck, you don’t even use the word “illegal” in your post. You do understand the difference between “legal” and “illegal” immigration, don’t you?

        Maybe this will help; imagine a drunk driver hits your car. When the police take the report, they intentionally leave out the part about them being drunk, and don’t bother arresting him for DUI. Are you OK with that? If so, explain why.

  • Brian Baker

    Wikipedia? Seriously?

    The reality is that illegal aliens cost this country an arm and a leg under any metric, and contrary to Mooring’s statement they don’t “contribute” anything to this country that comes anywhere near the costs they create.

  • lois eisenberg

    “Republicans don’t “contribute” anything to this country that comes anywhere near the costs they create.”

  • lois eisenberg

    “Flynn was a foreign agent during the campaign”
    “Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn has now admitted that while working as a top advisor to the Trump campaign he was also working as a foreign agent.”
    Unbelievable!
    This administration headed by a pathological liar has no where to gone but done,
    and unfortunately they are taking America down the road to disaster!

  • lois eisenberg

    “Dangers of fake news”
    Trump taking credit for 235,000 jobs in February with unemployment rate down to 4.7 %
    which he had noting to do with.
    This achievement was due to the previous administration !

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